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2022-06-19 00:57:21 By : Ms. Sunny Yao

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Hey Salty - it was a work contract so I don't wish to be specific (great one at that), but perhaps consider who might be a big telecommunications company....

OK - I've got more to add value to this thread, here is the link to the outcomes different solar/battery owners faced in that big June 2021 storm and power outages on Melbourne's eastern outskirts. Required reading, if you want to be independent or build reasonable resilience into your system:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-03/battery-power-dandenong-ranges-te...

Salty My system is smaller than yours probably 3/4 kw. Gas for cooking, solar hot water with an instantaneous gas hot water system for back up on cloudy days, 12volt chest fridge, which replaced a gas fridge which was consuming 3 gas bottles per year, gas is currently about $140 a bottle, the chest fridge which cost a bit over $2000 paid for itself in 5 years. My solar panel system has been added to as the trees to the north have grown taller, some of my solar panels are over 30 years old, I should climb up on the roof sometime and check them with a meter. I only get about 5 hours of sun at the moment 9am till about 2pm, east sloping bush block, lots off tall trees to the west. Heaps of good DIY tutorials on youtube, one of the best things about youtube is the information sharing. Rainbow Power Companies website has lots of good info. https://www.rpc.com.au/information/faq/solar-power.html I can't believe how cheap solar panels are these days, I recently bought a Victron 175 watt 12v panel for $233 from RPC.

Philo Saltys system is 2kw he said Used to fill the big house bottles at the Servo LPG pump when it was under 20c per litre

https://www.everythingcaravancamping.com.au/a/caravan-rv-upright-fridges...

Thanks vj. Will read the link when I get a moment . Philo- sounds like a gd simple setup but yes mine a bit bigger . Isn’t gas price going up though? I do like the 12 volt fridge idea as I believe regular fridges draw heaps of power. Cheers Udo . Will suss those videos . Rang zen to get quote on more panels as still have room for 12 more which would make a 5kw system. Maybe overkill I don’t know . Lots more research gotta do investigate other companies etc . Gut feeling is eventually companies will force you into contracts even with battery setups if leave it too late and may go down road of “subscription “ kinda thing like everything else . Could be wrong but just a hunch ..

Thanks vj. Will read the link when I get a moment . Philo- sounds like a gd simple setup but yes mine a bit bigger . Isn’t gas price going up though? I do like the 12 volt fridge idea as I believe regular fridges draw heaps of power. Cheers Udo . Will suss those videos . Rang zen to get quote on more panels as still have room for 12 more which would make a 5kw system. Maybe overkill I don’t know . Lots more research gotta do investigate other companies etc . Gut feeling is eventually companies will force you into contracts even with battery setups if leave it too late and may go down road of “subscription “ kinda thing like everything else . Could be wrong but just a hunch ..

This is why platforms like these guys will be the way of the future. People are beginning to realise the energy provider is ripping you off and making money from YOUR asset (solar panels) that that energy provider paid absolutely zero for!!

https://www.powerledger.io/solutions/need/p2p

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STC (Small-Scale Tech Certificate) Reduces each year until ending in Jan 2032 2032 : Solar Power Rebates + ZEV ( Zero Emission Vehicles) Rebates (Finish) Highest (Photovoltaic Power) Potential rebate Map & rewards most efficient (4) Solar "Power" Zones. https://solargis.com/maps-and-gis-data/download/australia

Highest rebates least pop Central west Oz radiate Outward > 30% less rebated cooler high pop zones. 1 West-Central > 2 greater N/W-East > 3 East Coast + Perth / Adelaide > 4 South Albany / Vic / Tas.

STC is determined by Market Price ( Currently rising to Max $40 with New Govt confidence) https://www.solarquotes.com.au/blog/stc-spot-prices-mb1555/ Companies charge 7.5% for on-selling yer STC

STC Solar Hot Water Rebate reduces each year until ending in Dec 2030 ( Solar 'Hot Water' Rebate Map) Scrolls (5) Zones 1 Latitude North Tropics > 5 South Gondwana. https://www.stiebel-eltron.com.au/images/uploads/Climate-Zones-Australia...

Solar (Power / Water) Map Zones oddly reward STCs in reverse. (Why!) That's for (4) main reasons.

1. Hottest regions max out Peak Power during Peak Solar harvest to feed hungry Air Cons / Freezers. 2. North brew boiling hot Water during peak harvest but seldom use any to warrant any STC credits. 3. Reverse Zones dictates that Solar Power Rebates are offset (Reverse) to Solar Hot Water Rebates. 4. Reverse Zone Maps dictate the Policy of Solar Power (vs) Solar Hot Water (Choose either / either) Noting mid Oz Pop zones could offer 50% equal Rebates on each...(Allowing for STC Price % offset.) STC Hot Water Rebates https://www.stiebel-eltron.com.au/hot-water-rebates

Recap : Solar Power Rebate Zones (vs) Solar Hot Water Rebate Zones look similar but opposite! Ok! So if it sounds dodgy when buying a mixed pack deal ...it's the only thing that isn't dodgy...Huh!

Most States offer EV rebates $3-3,500 for vehicles to $70,000 or free rego / stamp duty National Solar Subsidy : 6.6kW $3,000 is said to be already defaulted off each State's Sales Pricing. So these rebates are further again! (Cough!) Possibly! Hard to say, as Oz doesn't make any!

State Solar - Rebates- Hot Water - Batteries - EV + (No Interest Loans + Low income rebates) NSW - 6kW $ 2,849 > 10kW $4,774 (Note : No Hot Water > Battery Deals?) > Nsw Home Packs! Vic - 10kW $4,774 / SHW $1,000-Heaters $700 / Batteries $2,950 / Panels / Inverters -$180k income Note : Vic affords $1,400 for both Solar Power + Solar Hot Water Rebates to same Households https://www.katherinetimes.com.au/story/7713509/solar-homes-scheme-expan... Qld - 5kW $ 2,812 / SHW $200 + $500 trade in / Batteries $3,000 (On Hold) / EV Rebate-Rego-Duty SA - 6kW $3,157 / SHW $900 (Cards) / *Batteries $2-3,000 (New Alp Govt > Scrapping Batteries?) + (Adelaide/Feds $1-2,000 / home Heaters) WA - SHW $ 700 (S-Gas) Tas - 6.6kW $ 2,971 ACT - SHW $1,200 / Battery $3,500 (50% off) / Low Income $2,500 rebates NT - Pre 2020 Solar 14,000 FIT cut early to fund 2,000 x $6,000 Batteries (Dodgy...dumping ground!) https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-06/nt-solar-battery-scheme-changes/1... https://www.solarquotes.com.au/blog/nt-battery-subsidy/

State review - Panels Ok! > Hot Water on/off > Battery deals (Well dodgy!) > Loans + EV are Ok!

2022 Govt Battery Deals echo 2005-2011 Rushed Federal Solar / Hot Water / Batts > Battlezone.

{WARNING!} Solar Battery Neighbourhood Bomb factory Recalls! https://www.accc.gov.au/media-release/consumers-urged-to-check-solar-ene... Govts are baulking big time...you'd wanna check out that Hot Mess real proper before signing up! tbb suggests to let that cool down until some sorta guarantee of "Safe" product & install! Doubt if you'd get Home Insurance... ACCC already recalling nearly all of these Bombs! Kaboom! Germany Solar Batteries start 5 home fires / month ... be like getting an X-ray each trip to the garage! Middle of Winter! Pretty warm in here Luv! Just gonna raise the Roof a little... stand back a bit! Further! https://www.energy-storage.news/fire-risk-recall-for-lg-home-battery-sto...

FIT ~ Feed in Tariff = Discount off Bill Standard Govt / Company Tariff = 0 > 10c kW Provider Upfront Deals = Start at 10 > 12c kW ( Usually for 1 bill ) or *Lock in Long term 13c Deals. Company Package Deals = 10/12 > 40c kW Ltd ( eg : [Corp Slave] Solar - Panels + Water + Battery? ) Cheap Govt Packs = Dumping Ground for Battery powered Bombs! (So Sorry! How could we know!)

read the fine print (t&c) = Off peak limits > Peak Restrictions to suit Family Use.

(Bomb Recall) Fed schemers...tbb paid for Howard's Solar / Hot Water which evaporated into thin air! Tip : Best to get ripped off sooner & later on these suss Govt schemes! eg: 2005-7 : Howard's slick 90% rebated Solar Water + Panel deals > (For Mixed Card Holders) 90% Overinflated deals with $14k rebated [L] Donor loan > [L] Shopfronts vanished before ink was dry. 90% paid for but never got our Hot Water Systems...so copped a cold shower. Howard's sign up of No HWS ...disqualified us from Rudd's batts & State's Hot Water schemes! Being truthful > tbb was lucky as a day after, the neighbours & 1,000's more missed out on panels. [L] + Alp Pollies : "You can't have both or either, so you losers can just crawl back into yer hovels!" Nice!

Today's Family Bomb disposal units be like drooling over past Govt fleecing of Golden Breed Hodads. Today's Sunnyboys : "I suffer nightmares of not being blown up in my own home!" Those fuckin' lazy fat arsed Boomerz get all the sweet deals...All get equally fucked in the head...Right!

Pre 2011 Golden Breed come with Sunset Claws (Time capsule is cast into our Sun Dials) re: below.

Which Solar Flares make yer bottom line smaller? (Never said that!) Before wrestling with climate change rooms numbers & hangups Corps offset High Feed in Tariffs with higher supply / usage rates (Premier : F.U! I said Crush them!) Also note some FIT / Packs have Max kW/hr & 1/4 limits.(Power Hungry might check yer penalty rates!)

Choose > High Feed in Tariff... * Large Systems (Above 5kW) * No / Low day usage * Package Deal is too restrictive = Off Peak clipping (vs) Offsetting Premium Peak

Choose Package Deal...(Hunt around for *longer term low Tariffs) *Small System (Under 5kW) *Night Shift worker > Power Mad off peak binger *Own yer own Battery

FIT Table. pre 2011 > (Standard) > Packs? > Long term > Notes 2016 NSW > 0 - 9c > 40c 1 bill > *13c 2024 Vic > 0 - 10.2c > 10c 1 bill > 12c 2028 Qld > 0 - 8.3c > 40c 1 bill > 12c 2028 SA > 0 - 10.75c > 40c 1 bill > 10.75c End WA > 0 - 3c > (No 'Govt only' packs) > 10c + ( Standard offer > 7.1c up to 5kW) End Tas > 0 - 7c > (No Corp Packs) > 10c End ACT > 0 - 9c > 40c 1 bill > 10c 2022 NT > 0 - 8.3c ( $6k Rebate ) > 11c (July 2022 end of NT Golden Era > Family Bomb disposal era!)

Smash Mouth ~ It's just like any Fad, it retracts before impact and just like fashion it's a passion for the with it and hip, if you got the goods they'll come and buy it, just to stay in the clique. So don't delay, supplies are runnin' out, allow if you're still alive, six to eight years to arrive and if you follow, their maybe a tomorrow, but if the offer's shunned you might as well be Walkin' on the Sun.

All night Long TV binge... "Energy Crisis!" "System Overlode!" "Power Shedding!" "This is the End!"

Yeah! Yeah! These Power Mad Bullies never carry out their threats...New super cool Govt will save us!

This Morning....Power Outage all over the Town...Crikey! It really is the beginning of the End! Quick! To the letter boxes...checkin' for any [ Yer Power was turned off yesterday post it note ] All open our usual Extortion Letters...Power Bill goes up in 2 weeks or else Punkz...Ok! So! Nothin' suss..just the usual Hate Mail!

By now...pleading with the Bullies to leave us little guys alone! Emergency Pow Wow...out the back the first wave of The Wyalla Wipeout is rising up...Fark! All just knew this was the last town meeting...

Crisis diverted...Bob the Backhoe took out the Main Cable...3 hrs later... "It's all cool...can carry on with yer Power Crisis!" https://www.mygc.com.au/outage-knocks-out-power-to-nearly-2000-gold-coas...

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